tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571749075036803790.post4597598395192202235..comments2023-11-05T01:29:48.498-07:00Comments on LIFE IN THE SECOND HALF: New Wealthy - Part 2 - The DownsideNancyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13178290697351352495noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571749075036803790.post-65683458570944094752011-03-30T10:56:39.380-07:002011-03-30T10:56:39.380-07:00Jeanette - Don't delete! Good response and a v...Jeanette - Don't delete! Good response and a very good reminder that money is not evil - it just needs to keep moving and not hoarded.Nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13178290697351352495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571749075036803790.post-27990910969503530862011-03-30T10:48:17.427-07:002011-03-30T10:48:17.427-07:00My circle of friends and I have all lived below or...My circle of friends and I have all lived below or at the poverty line, and, for brief periods, significantly ABOVE that line. For a few, they have been above the median and average for years. One of them has never forgotten her time at the bottom and her attitude of generosity never dims. The other? She feels deprived, embittered, and cannot see that she has far more than MOST PEOPLE in this country. But, then, she has always felt deprived one way or another. Others have said it in here, Nancy. Our attitudes, our values we bring with us through economic brackets. My friends sustain me sometimes now, as in easier times, I have helped sustain them. It's as if we all keep passing around a pool of about $20,000 among us for whoever needs it most. Sometimes it's two or three of us, sometimes it's one. None of us will hit the wealthy bracket... but we have come to realize, the eight of us, that we won't because not one of them manages to HOLD ONTO the money. They keep giving it to people who need it! And I hope and pray, that if a miracle of money dropped into my lap, that this would be how I handled it. I do not hate the wealthy, but sometimes I resent the bleep out of wealthy people who seem to blame those who are struggling for their struggles.<br /><br />We all stumble. We all make mistakes, the poor and the wealthy alike. But some have no buffers to mitigate the consequences of their actions. Some of us have been just LUCKY that our mistakes did not do more damage. And sometimes, the consequences are too great for the mistakes, or someone just plain has horrendous luck.<br /><br />We have been experiencing class warfare for some time in this country. Perhaps we are just at last beginning to take more notice of what has been fomenting for YEARS.<br /><br />I may wind up deleting this. It's long and rambling. I look forward to reading more, Nancy. And to settling into a more objective perspective myself. Thanks for opening up the discussion and WELCOMING our reactions. REsponses come later...JeannetteLShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13528285846408727632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571749075036803790.post-91081900415809099382011-03-29T23:15:54.424-07:002011-03-29T23:15:54.424-07:00Here - I think we have all felt that way - the tar...Here - I think we have all felt that way - the target keeps moving and we can thank those at the top for helping it. But you're certainly right about giving. It puts you right into the flow.Nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13178290697351352495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571749075036803790.post-27665444770486388472011-03-29T20:31:40.851-07:002011-03-29T20:31:40.851-07:00When it comes to money, the question of when is it...When it comes to money, the question of when is it enough is a good one. In college, while struggling to feed myself, $40K seems like nice target. Funny how most of us have surpassed that point and still feel poor. How much is a moving target. <br /><br />There is one constant I found. When I feel the most poor and volunteer my time to my community, I feel like a millionaire. <br /><br />Thanks again for a fascinating post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571749075036803790.post-58093857455528140362011-03-29T20:02:17.246-07:002011-03-29T20:02:17.246-07:00California - I like Michael Moore right now with h...California - I like Michael Moore right now with his stance on unions.<br /><br />Brian - You may very well be right.<br /><br />Natalie - Yep, we can use our beanies for free so far.<br /><br />T&R - That fate was sealed as soon as we turned into a service economy.Nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13178290697351352495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571749075036803790.post-5520618046825810922011-03-29T19:00:00.138-07:002011-03-29T19:00:00.138-07:00It's as if we are reverting to Medieval times...It's as if we are reverting to Medieval times - serfdom and indentured servitude and the royals at the other end. And we won't even talk about corporations, like GE, which paid zero income tax last year.<br />Trish<br />www.synchrosecrets.com/synchrosecretsTrish and Rob MacGregorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02846270474176860924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571749075036803790.post-26305860385752759222011-03-29T18:36:44.697-07:002011-03-29T18:36:44.697-07:00I believe there are lessons to learn wherever you ...I believe there are lessons to learn wherever you are, and whatever station you are at in life. Happiness is a conscious choice, not a destination. As far as I am aware.....thinking is still free?<br />Great Post, Nancy.♥Nataliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12919764140075852854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571749075036803790.post-39158173568582692032011-03-29T18:04:08.958-07:002011-03-29T18:04:08.958-07:00smiles. i believe i mentioned that as well yesterd...smiles. i believe i mentioned that as well yesterday...the hour glass keeps pinching and unfortunately i see it coming...i hope not but...Brian Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00722940075884718007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571749075036803790.post-26124934543090913142011-03-29T17:43:27.087-07:002011-03-29T17:43:27.087-07:00You might enjoy this. Michaeel Moore was on the C...You might enjoy this. Michaeel Moore was on the Colbert Report last night & the very rich was a partial subject in the interview:<br /><br />http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/379065/march-28-2011/michael-moore?xrs=share_copyCalifornia Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12582691517303132274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571749075036803790.post-26950084798454927702011-03-29T12:20:00.775-07:002011-03-29T12:20:00.775-07:00Grandmother - Surprisingly enough, it is the old g...Grandmother - Surprisingly enough, it is the old guard money that has that tendency. One of the interesting things I found about these new mega-rich is a more egalitarian view of social issues. It is the old guard that uses government to line their pockets and hates anything relating to entitlements. Of course, that is not across the board, but these new extremely rich people are not as worried about making sure government lowers taxes and ignores the elderly and other at-risk groups. At least that was what I found in the literature I used for these posts. It surprised me, because I tended to put all rich people into one category.Nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13178290697351352495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571749075036803790.post-82978381553461468302011-03-29T12:10:28.249-07:002011-03-29T12:10:28.249-07:00One of the problems of the uber rich is when they&...One of the problems of the uber rich is when they're in politics and convince voters to vote against their own self interest, for example, that there really isn't enough money and therefore cuts in social security are necessary. There is enough but it's in the hands of too few.Grandmother Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18169464484379536529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571749075036803790.post-41769607824875651712011-03-29T11:18:17.637-07:002011-03-29T11:18:17.637-07:00Maggie - I'm sorry you felt the need to delete...Maggie - I'm sorry you felt the need to delete your comment yesterday - I thought you made good points. You're right about there being so much more - it is a very convoluted and complicated issue that cannot be discussed in any length because of the length of the post. I plan to write further on this subject in my book. Hopefully I can give it the time it deserves.Nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13178290697351352495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571749075036803790.post-17366432789415117742011-03-29T11:08:30.067-07:002011-03-29T11:08:30.067-07:00Very interesting points here. I would comment furt...Very interesting points here. I would comment further but am afraid I would spew more than anyone would want to read...as you can see this happened yesterday and I felt compelled to delete my comment. Good post on a very interesting subject...there's so much more to this than meets the eye or has been published on paper. I'm glad it's being talked about in the open. Thanks Nancy.karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16749464659476217501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571749075036803790.post-65492047796124545452011-03-29T10:19:44.789-07:002011-03-29T10:19:44.789-07:00Bruce - Good point. Maybe true happiness is being ...Bruce - Good point. Maybe true happiness is being happy with what you have and where you are.Nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13178290697351352495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571749075036803790.post-84680153184418056512011-03-29T09:32:30.843-07:002011-03-29T09:32:30.843-07:00I have been thinking a lot about this subject. We ...I have been thinking a lot about this subject. We all probably know individuals who went looking for the secret of happiness. They never discovered the answer in material reward. And they were usually considered oddballs by those around them.Bruce Coltinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12861316663245952372noreply@blogger.com